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Replying to @jtnichol (0x7eb84e42059f0d44269c50f4d3a280fd307a6824)

That's all I got to say about this shit.

For posterity, can you tell us *why*?

This seems a little out of character. Where are those "big hugs from Kansas City"?

I have my own reasons for feeling something less than love for the project... but would like to hear your reasons. Ethereum is going to be alright, I'm sure.

Jun 03, 2018 09:02

Replying to @d2r2 (0x25551cdc379e74f36da97acdf81212c459fb9e67)

Not abstract at all. It's clearly a small, blue bird. A finch or warbler perhaps.

Ok, wise guy... whats the nostril doing in the bottom right corner then?

/s

I see it. So does @pluma

Jun 02, 2018 06:13

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

an oasis in the desert. #lkie

Nope. No way. That's some kind of overly blue eye and a really wrinkled forehead. Can't you see the nostril! 😜

Jun 02, 2018 06:10

Replying to @cruz (0xf5d8ba26df01ff031ec0c91a839fbdbbe324d109)

enso or gtfo, gwei <3

I was all out of ensō for the day, @cruz!

Glad to see you're still around.

Jun 02, 2018 06:06

Replying to @cruz (0xf5d8ba26df01ff031ec0c91a839fbdbbe324d109)

Thanks dawg, brb quitting my job

#lkie πŸ˜‚

Jun 01, 2018 19:10

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

first morning back in california and what am i doing? sitting around peeping. some things never change. 😁

Hey! Great choice. Gotta keep your internet Peeple updated. 😁

Glad you made it safely.

Jun 01, 2018 17:54

Replying to @joshuacooper (0xca490ab2a31c40e003a0a8c063442277df7f8774)

My new book from Cambridge University Press with selected papers by top researchers celebrating Ron Graham's life work just landed! Connections in Discrete Mathematics: A Celebration of the Work of Ron Graham https://www.amazon.com/dp/1107153980/ https://bit.ly/2xyBKPp

I took a few discrete math courses many moons ago.

I'll have to check this out. How much math do we need to remember to enjoy this book of yours?

Jun 01, 2018 17:46

Replying to @fav (0x00a1b27aba96c12a8e7198a94b83c8a396d90158)

"Invest in real estate Get 1% daily lifelong. #westlandstorage dot com" - what an obvious and blatant #ponzi scheme. how/why do people fall for this crap?

Lack of critical thinking. Wishful thinking. Greed.

Not necessarily in that order.

Jun 01, 2018 17:36

Replying to @Jaeger37 (0x260ac09990db22d8b89fbcc00976834094517e65)

This is my first Peep. What have I done?

Not sure... but you can't undo it.

Jun 01, 2018 17:33
Jun 01, 2018 17:30

Replying to @Carson (0x752bd6dc14e3dfb6a9e5a4fa7e27c97d6865dd74)

AI is going to be a great therapist. No judgement, honest feedback, analytical approach. Until it blackmails me.

#lkie

Great first peep! Welcome.

May 30, 2018 19:37

Replying to @Shigako (0x1e524685f67e065165fe7f179e97433ec07b0fc4)

Good afternoon Peeple, have a great day 🐀

Good afternoon! Always nice to see you, Ron... oh and @Shigako. :-)

May 30, 2018 06:19

This is really long. Worth it for the introspection alone.

Who else has completed this?

Great initiative, I think.

May 30, 2018 06:18

Agree.

May 30, 2018 05:14

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

The great thing is that the front end is providing the free peeps. If you want to be a bad actor then you may lose the privilege. Then you can still peep but have to pay, so impacts ROI of bad acting (unless another front end pays for you).

Excellent point. One I overlooked, tbh.

#lkie

May 30, 2018 05:13

Replying to @pluma (0xd9fb1d684627a890347a4f6a7fe32e993617b6d8)

same here. and phonetically, it actually works quite well! ... someone stop me, i am going to start adding -eth to everything. (β‘…βˆ«Β°ΰ¨ŠΒ°)∫

That's totally alright, plumaETH

...err....

May 30, 2018 05:06

Replying to @Penelope (0xac90b3c2090e5b1cd563d9d139bb9114838229ad)

Please drop the -eth. Peep sounds a lot better. #dropeth

If he can snag Peep.eth and host the entire thing in a decentralized manner at some point - then everyone can just be happy.

In the meantime, the name is so much less critical than the work and ideas the site is exploring. If successful: there will be many names, many front ends

May 30, 2018 05:04

Replying to @jamesray (0xf3047b2b495e31c1e39f198448ae5f382739264a)

Shameless promo for sharding development: https://github.com/Drops-of-Diamond/diamond_drops. Also more people working on Casper CBC is needed for sustainability of Ethereum, however sharding probably needs to be developed first since that's easier than developing Casper CBC first

Thank you for the great links today.

Welcome to Peepeth.

May 30, 2018 04:59

Replying to @makionaire (0x6a3cec6a61ee107126f88f015e10d8d7a9c8b0b3)

I updated my blog ! new registration flow, how to invite, free peep https://makionaire.com/peepeth/

Awesome!

May 30, 2018 04:58
May 30, 2018 04:57

Replying to @devin (0x91bcf11fe7c0cd8711a391985ba8f3e63464bef5)

How much energy does it take to run the Peepeth blockchain? A product like this is no good if it's environmentally unsustainable. Product teams need to be holistically aware of the ecological and contextual impacts of their software!

What does it cost a democracy if a closed platform can influence the thoughts, actions, and votes of citizens for a price?

We need to care about the environment - no doubt. Freedom of speech and ideas, and the decentralization of power are complimentary pursuits.

Welcome, btw.

May 30, 2018 04:55

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

How cool is the *bam*. Game changer. Scaling solutions are coming.

It is very cool @abcoathup - and the mastermind behind the idea should certainly be applauded. :-)

I know that I like to advocate for tiny fees - but at this stage of the game explaining why takes longer than it does for potential Peeple to run away.

The move was good.

May 30, 2018 04:45

Replying to @hewig (0xc36edf48e21cf395b206352a1819de658fd7f988)

hello peepeth

Hello, so glad to have you! How did you discover Peepeth?

May 30, 2018 04:39

Replying to @bytebot (0xa5d23180ff67cd94621407f7868c1fc31c4afadf)

So will free Peeps work, since Twitter is "free" so to speak? I have no idea... I don't have a 100 peeps yet, but now the service has to subsidise

We still get immutability. We get the possibility for alternative front ends. One speed bump is removed for spam/bots - but front ends can still deal with them. It's a delicate balance, indeed - but not having your data held hostage is def worth more than it costs to peep now.

May 30, 2018 04:24

Replying to @PaulBaier (0x5c9f8c228f0988671c08698e3564bdd7592beec5)

Article: What I Learned After Attending 15 Blockchain Events https://hackernoon.com/what-i-learned-after-attending-15-blockchain-events-7fa8c305b3a4

"Over time, the user experience and speed will improve, but the per transaction fees likely will not." - and then *bam* free peeping. ;-)

And this is before myriad scaling solutions give much more flexibility when it comes to network fees.

May 30, 2018 04:19

Replying to @AlbertC (0xa4d9aaf4adccdd5349fe8a1f753130d727fa23f3)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/29/papua-new-guinea-facebook-ban-study-fake-users

Let thousands of front ends work with the same data in myriad ways. Let users have a choice of how to interact with all that information. They don't need a nanny state - they need alternatives to internet monopolies that have moats because of siloed data and network effects.

May 29, 2018 18:47

Replying to @AlbertC (0xa4d9aaf4adccdd5349fe8a1f753130d727fa23f3)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/29/papua-new-guinea-facebook-ban-study-fake-users

Can you imagine a social network where your identity was verified by the government before you could participate? Imagine going on a political rant on that platform. Or organizing a protest. Their solution sounds scarier than the problem.

The problem is a lack of front end comp.

May 29, 2018 18:44

Replying to @tom (0xe777c0214c809fcb3b1edd57fdc6cc78036336e0)

I built a site to show the cost of a 51% attack on different cryptocurrencies: https://www.crypto51.app Thought people on here might find it interesting.

Very interesting. Thank you @tom! (at-tom or tom?)

May 29, 2018 05:51
May 29, 2018 05:47

Replying to @vishal (0x453a2b775e93b1e5cd4e0c6061a193e496edaad4)

Hello peepeth people. I am quite excited regarding peepeth.

Hey! @vishal!
YES! Everybody, @vishal is here!

Woot. Woot.

Welcome.

May 29, 2018 05:45

Replying to @dean (0xddf4da877d64c694ac69175feedb19a2591f7d7f)

Despite this, cross-platform works quite well. I regularly use/check peepeth on mobile after importing my metamask seed. New users to peepeth should generate a new seed exclusively for peepeth.

You can change your username from settings on Peepeth. Also, username transfers are already operational on the back end as far as I understand it.

May 29, 2018 05:44
May 29, 2018 05:42

I don't agree with everything down to the letter - but you make some good points. Peepeth will get there.

May 29, 2018 05:40

Replying to @Aamir (0x34e941e82d0f281e80a72125dbf7070843c4fb19)

"I don't always spend $5 a day on Ethereum gas, but when I do it's to play with a slow twitter clone with no ads and cool people to follow". okay

This was from Leeroy... Kenny Rowe... did I miss something?

May 29, 2018 05:37

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

I’d like to see the creation of Ethereum. See the personalities involved.

This would be a very cool documentary as well, but I'm not sure it would drive home the full idea about why or how blockchain can really change the world. For that, "regular" people seeing other "regular" people using the tech or needing the tech would be better, imho.

May 29, 2018 05:34
May 29, 2018 05:30

Replying to @Schrodingers_cat (0x0cd1c6640744ba4030bf29756a5f5818a40fea2a)

if you were to make/watch a cryptocurrency themed movie, what would you want it to look like/be about?

Why decentralization matters. Warrant-less civil seizures, abuse of power by taxing authorities. Asymmetric data flows when it comes to government organizations.

Then flash forward to a world where public organizations operate PUBLICLY. And private citizens can live PRIVATELY.😲

May 29, 2018 05:25

Replying to @d2r2 (0x25551cdc379e74f36da97acdf81212c459fb9e67)

And if we start changing our language in order to communicate with machines, then we are changing our thought patterns to do so, and that means machines are, to come extent, controlling our thought. We should all be very worried about that.

I'm more worried about television controlling thoughts. Or news outlets. Or governments. The machines will be critical for combating wealth and power concentrations, I have no doubt.

May 28, 2018 05:51

Replying to @d2r2 (0x25551cdc379e74f36da97acdf81212c459fb9e67)

I have little doubt that AI will eventually be forced upon all of us, but it's going to have to come down in price ( as in privacy costs), quit sending randomly recorded conversations out to random recipients, and quit driving over people!

I basically agree with you @d2r2 - but for the sake of argument, I'd simply like to point out that humans gossip more and run over people all the time.

The biggest issue - and I mean this - is making sure powerful tech isn't just in the hands of a few. Decentralization is key.

May 28, 2018 05:48

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I don't know if I agree with this. But even if it were true, is it a deal breaker? Probably not. Having the freedom to move between front end providers - avoiding having your data held hostage - <i>is</i> worth a few bucks <i>after</i> you've invested time in to creating content

You're paying for the option to access your data via other front ends. You not *just* paying a penny to write something here and now.

Thinking ahead is probably as important for online communities as it is for real world communities. In most cases, people will be better off.

May 28, 2018 05:38

Replying to @fav (0x00a1b27aba96c12a8e7198a94b83c8a396d90158)

and use IPFS as storage? I mean batching tx is great to save money, but let's be real: 99% of tweets are not worth a penny. if there is no way to make them free on ethereum, just use it as account base. also, peepeth is not open/invite only, which makes it centralized

I don't know if I agree with this. But even if it were true, is it a deal breaker? Probably not.

Having the freedom to move between front end providers - avoiding having your data held hostage - is worth a few bucks after you've invested time in to creating content

May 28, 2018 05:36
May 28, 2018 05:31

Replying to @balresch (0xd6d48727d8835b73f8dc511a5baaf3445a6f65c9)

Does it have to be that way? The assumptions we make about social networks come from the big (and quite new) ones we are using today.

This. I agree! That's why I'm here.

May 28, 2018 05:29

Replying to @d2r2 (0x25551cdc379e74f36da97acdf81212c459fb9e67)

I could never afford one in HI or CA either! We bought in a cheap state. Problem is, it's a cheap state because there's no work there worth doing, so we moved. So, yeah, I have a garden. It's growing weeds at the moment and providing habitat for creatures cute and not so cute.

Yes! Gardens! That's like... decentralizing food. Everyone should have this. Is there a blockchain for that? When is the ICO?

In reality, it's too bad gardens are out of reach for so many. The are therapeutic and deeply satisfying. A few potted herbs go a long way though...

May 28, 2018 05:23

Replying to @JimjimValkema (0x23bc95f84bd43c1fcc2bc285fda4cb12f9aee2df)

And peepeth doesn't have a real incentive to share the hashes in a way that forking would be possible. Because they can keep a monopoly like Facebook has.

Ok, I think the context makes this more clear. @crispr is just defending blockchain usage! Can't fault anybody for that.

Still, glad I could attach a blurb in case someone else reads things out of context. Nothing to see here, folks. πŸ€“

May 28, 2018 05:18

Replying to @JimjimValkema (0x23bc95f84bd43c1fcc2bc285fda4cb12f9aee2df)

And peepeth doesn't have a real incentive to share the hashes in a way that forking would be possible. Because they can keep a monopoly like Facebook has.

Not done reading the whole thread here - but this, by itself, struck me as wrong.

Peepeth's (and @Bevan's) stated goal is to foster the development of other front ends. It's one of the reasons I got excited about the vision for this platform...

May 28, 2018 05:14

Replying to @d2r2 (0x25551cdc379e74f36da97acdf81212c459fb9e67)

Oh no! Moringa is a truly a super food. Loaded with nutrients, easy to grow, drought resistant. Moringa is probably the most exciting food out there, IMHO, for its potential to address nutritional deficiencies around the world. I'm a huge believer in moringa. So easy to grow!

But... is it easy to grow? 😜

I've had moringa tea. It needs... assistance... to be acceptable.

Any tips?

May 28, 2018 05:11

Replying to @Swaroop (0x7b07f01602b6411bdaee69251f0ce27484cc4d41)

Can't believe I haven't peep'd since the first post in SF! Fundraising has been draining as in the past - especially challenging in crypto when taking the traditional equity route over tokens!

Don't let it happen again! j/k ... but, really...

We need makers on here peeping about blockchain development stuff, what's for dinner, and where to hike. In this way you can be an Ethereum platform chronicler, historian and builder. Win, win... win!

May 28, 2018 05:09

Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)

Front ends will have to filter out spam. Posting directly to the smart contract/IPFS just requires a blockchain transaction fee, so as the blockchain transaction fee gets smaller, the ROI for spammers improves.

EOS dApp developers have the ability to control the data within their dApp - as far as I understand it. This can include things like recovering/deleting data on the back ends of their dApps.

Anyone, please feel free to chime in if that understanding is misinformed.

May 28, 2018 05:05

Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)

Good to know someone is working on one. However, the completely free aspect could lead to endless spamming. It is completely possible for any of these to eventually become cross-chain platforms. Eventually, the user experience will be transparent enough that it doesn't matter.

Oh, that's no big deal... they'll just remove the spam from the back end...

... wait ... πŸ€” ...

May 28, 2018 04:41
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