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Replying to @MattJohnson (0x58172a8c86faad1657549cfcdb311e845ddfd22c)

Been playing around with #Trust on mobile

Haven't tried it out yet. Toshi's browser UI is pretty lacking but #Cipher keeps giving me issues and doesn't recognize my collectibles. How does #Trust compare?

Apr 16, 2018 01:40

Replying to @isaacsu (0xd437d4e083a32e9e2441f6126fcb58ba7477238c)

Ordered a replacement battery for my trusty old X201 (http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-thinkpad-x201-review/). Looking to make it my glorified typewriter machine.

A mechanical keyboard with blue switches would authentically grab the attention of the whole cafe!

Apr 16, 2018 01:28

Replying to @james (0xb89465f04caf9334d3d116637ac2a9c4aa8dcff6)

It is fun to think about the inevitable embeddable dapps that will come to Peepeth. From your feed you could play with your CK, vote on a proposal for your Aragon DOA, make a 0x trade, etc.

That's one of the reasons I disagree with the people claiming that memo.cash is gonna be the major twitter blockchain counterpart. It's built on the bitcoin cash blockchain compared to a project like this built on ethereum, which is actually built for decentralized applications.

Apr 16, 2018 01:10

Replying to @Skyler (0x8c0e1c1b7ca56cbf74b88de1c07e0a7216ee90b6)

Agree 100%. But given trilemma of affordability, security, and scalability, I am willing to sacrifice affordability first. Scaling is coming, but scale without demand is meaningless

Of course. I believe there is a certain prime point on the graph of utility vs demand where introducing scaling will be the most beneficial.

Apr 16, 2018 00:48

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Thanks @james Lots of peeple might never know, but I will always remember - you paved the way with Leeroy.

Hopefully it'll be in the history books!

Apr 16, 2018 00:46

Replying to @Skyler (0x8c0e1c1b7ca56cbf74b88de1c07e0a7216ee90b6)

I look at average transaction fees as measured in gwei, as a measure of demand for Ethereum network. I do not want high fees to become standard, but I do want people to use Ethereum beyond speculation and for pressure to remain on developers to implement scaling solutions

High fees may signal high demand, but they are more so a blatant show of weakness in the technology. IMO, they decrease the utility of the platform and hurt demand. Ethereum's gotta scale at a certain point if we want adoption to boost.

Apr 16, 2018 00:43

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

I also imagine we will have less competitive frontends that run a bit more altruistically in order to include others that the financial cost would exclude otherwise. I'm very excited to see how this whole blockchain micropayment social media thing goes.

But, as everyone probably realizes, ethereum must scale in order to substantially lessen the economic burden, I do agree @CallMeGwei

Apr 16, 2018 00:35

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

Honestly, it seems that people are used to remaining ignorant to their info being sold while they also ignore ads. It won't be very easy for people to transition to a system where they can't ignore the cost as they are directly paying it. I still think it can be done though.

I also imagine we will have less competitive frontends that run a bit more altruistically in order to include others that the financial cost would exclude otherwise. I'm very excited to see how this whole blockchain micropayment social media thing goes.

Apr 16, 2018 00:34

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I think we need scaling, honestly. Peepeth is cheap for many, especially given the gas costs lately - but it needs to be even cheaper for a large part of the world. This is doubly true if you're going to skim a little off every transaction to fund the site. It will get there.

Honestly, it seems that people are used to remaining ignorant to their info being sold while they also ignore ads. It won't be very easy for people to transition to a system where they can't ignore the cost as they are directly paying it. I still think it can be done though.

Apr 16, 2018 00:32
Apr 16, 2018 00:29

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Hey Peeple - I'm trying to spread awareness for the Peepeth platform... again on reddit, but this time /r/ethereum Check it out - chime in with what you love about Peepeth! https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/8cgysu/an_intro_to_peepeth_the_real_crypto_twitter_and/

Upvoted, thanks for spreading the word!

Apr 16, 2018 00:28

Replying to @Alec (0x23677376bc1b7f48970b83a7ce0d0367395eac9e)

Just got these delivered by Amazon. I think I'll start with 1984.

Welcome to the watchlist.

Apr 15, 2018 19:30

Replying to @joshuahjohnson (0x2b975be833f1c582b1137b2a26004d15f26a8e9f)

Hello world! Glad to join the Peep community. Have been in eth since the beginning. It's been a great journey so far.

Welcome! Only been in eth since $30 (learned a painful lesson at $60), but feels like an eternity!

Apr 15, 2018 18:15

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

If we've learned anything from the Silk Road... Life in prison for the creator(s) is a safe guess.

Being serious though, you'd probably have trouble commercially implementing a business solution blockchain and making money from it in a country that recognizes that you have infringed on a patent.

I love how you can patent things you might never even make.

Apr 15, 2018 17:54

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I'm not sure I generally like the word "patent" alongside the word "blockchain," but I can see how this is good news if I wander outside of the utopia I have in my mind... Gonna be interesting to see what happens if a patent is infringed by a public chain - what's the recourse?

If we've learned anything from the Silk Road...
Life in prison for the creator(s) is a safe guess.

Apr 15, 2018 17:52

Replying to @Alec (0x23677376bc1b7f48970b83a7ce0d0367395eac9e)

I'm very much against this. The Ethereum foundation isn't responsible for bailing out bad code. The DAO was a one time thing.

Agree. Ethereum might have been to young when the DAO thing happened, but it is crucial that we don't build in a feature that allows us to repeat it. The job of the protocol shouldn't be to do that.

Apr 15, 2018 17:20 Enso 1 Enso

Crypto Composables (ERC 998) seems pretty interesting...
https://medium.com/coinmonks/introducing-crypto-composables-ee5701fde217

Apr 15, 2018 14:04
Apr 15, 2018 05:17

Replying to @cruz (0xf5d8ba26df01ff031ec0c91a839fbdbbe324d109)

looks like the markets never quite took to Peercoin, i'm sorry @Bryce the party boat is put on hiatus until further notice 乁| ・ 〰 ・ |ㄏ

Apr 15, 2018 04:43

Replying to @cruz (0xf5d8ba26df01ff031ec0c91a839fbdbbe324d109)

when you find an old HD with a bunch of .dat backups from 2013

If you end up rich invite me to the party boat some time.

Apr 15, 2018 04:25

Replying to @Skyler (0x8c0e1c1b7ca56cbf74b88de1c07e0a7216ee90b6)

Was just thinking Peepeth is a perfect candidate for a dApphain. Definitely check out Loom, they're integrating with Plasma too. https://delegatecall.com/ is a live "dAppchain" on Loom Network

Honestly, still researching the thing. But from what I've seen so far, I think it is definitely worth looking into.

Apr 15, 2018 04:08

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

The mobile web3 browsers/wallets are doing a good job of showcasing dApps... Peepeth is probably the best - sincerely. Etherbots is being developed passionately. I have a list about 100 dApps long that I've been asked to write about... I should have a better answer for you.

Not a fan that I have to give Etherbots my email to sign up, but hey I gave peepeth my email to get into the beta.

Apr 15, 2018 04:01

Apparently Loom network will allow frontends to be hosted on a "DAppchain" to keep your DApp completely decentralized. Interesting stuff, very curious about how it works though.

https://loomx.io/

Apr 15, 2018 04:00

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Also... if people are paying for access to the rest of the Peeps too frequently, someone will just write a free reader. (Actually, they can already use @James' reader.)

Yep, didn't even think about that.

Apr 15, 2018 02:20

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I think purchasing to post (or to read) longer peeps would be an interesting experiment.

Could just become similar to a blogging site where you have to pay to get access to the rest of the blog... which isn't a bad model but not sure that's what Peepeth wants to be. Really depends how this is implemented though.

Apr 15, 2018 01:57

Agree

Apr 15, 2018 01:07

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I think it will absolutely be an *option* in the future - if for no other reason than people will want to get *paid* for spending time on a social media front-end. And this is ok, I think, because it will be a *choice* rather than the sole option.

I think that the competition created by the open source and cheap nature of dapps/SC's will result in many willing to operate with less profit (no ads). It'll be interesting to see what features frontends create to be competitive and justify the cost.

Apr 15, 2018 00:39

Replying to @Alec (0x23677376bc1b7f48970b83a7ce0d0367395eac9e)

How long has this been a thing?

A while I think. Found out about it last night. It honestly isn't very noticeable.

Apr 15, 2018 00:35

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Whoops was meant to be for @abcoathup

Too late on blockchain, no takesy backsies!

Apr 15, 2018 00:33

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Income also comes from Verifications. There should be a "stuff" store, but I doubt @Bevan has the spare time to manage it. Premium frontend-features and supporter badges should also be options, again - Bevan is working hard to get the basics bug free.

Do you see advertising as a possibility in the future? I hope that with the cheaper running costs of dapps compared to server farms, we can have frontends that avoid this.

Apr 15, 2018 00:30

Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)

I say custom amounts should be allowed. The market will decide if it is too big or small due to gas costs.

Second this. Also, I still hold hope that Ethereum will scale (albeit probably a long time off) and this works with that. The frontend just will have to confirm that the tip actually went through.

Apr 15, 2018 00:28

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

Although a reward/incentive system is interesting, however who would pay?

I also feel that tips fill this role, although we need microtipping.

Apr 15, 2018 00:22

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

I'm talking about a simple way to allow people to gain small amounts of eth to pay for peeps. I was thinking of an optional web miner that mines something like XMR and converts to ETH then deposits to your wallet automatically could be pretty beneficial. Not a reward system

Although a reward/incentive system is interesting, however who would pay?

Apr 15, 2018 00:18

Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)

Since the Ethereum network maintains consensus, additional mining isn't required. I think incentives on Peepeth would probably serve more benefit if they took the form of something like rewards for moderation or filtration.

I'm talking about a simple way to allow people to gain small amounts of eth to pay for peeps. I was thinking of an optional web miner that mines something like XMR and converts to ETH then deposits to your wallet automatically could be pretty beneficial. Not a reward system

Apr 15, 2018 00:18

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Well, would work until Proof of Stake... unless some service like omise-go could do an on-the-fly exchange. I actually like this idea as an option. I think there will also be front ends that will give ETH for a quick AI training session or a quiz...

Yeah, honestly forgot about that. I still think it will be a while until that. However, my other peep mentioned the possibility of a service that mined a profitable coin and transferred to ether for you. A fee would be needed though.

Apr 15, 2018 00:05

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

Preferably, as peeps cost either to make. Too bad ether isn't great to CPU mine, and I haven't really heard of GPU web miners. I currently mine nano using a program that actually mines zcash and trades it for me, so maybe a system like that?

I also use a site called raffle miner, which mines a coin (forgot sorry) and draws a lottery daily, hourly, and weekly, and you actually tend to make much more than you would mining regularly, unless you mine inconsistently. Probably not as great for this type of thing.

Apr 15, 2018 00:04

Replying to @jm9k (0xa7bd09daab3eb5ec96f04914d94c47681489d604)

What would you be mining? Ether?

Preferably, as peeps cost either to make. Too bad ether isn't great to CPU mine, and I haven't really heard of GPU web miners. I currently mine nano using a program that actually mines zcash and trades it for me, so maybe a system like that?

Apr 15, 2018 00:03

Had an interesting thought that I haven't thought out a whole lot but you guys can criticize me. What if Peepeth implemented a web miner into the site that people could just a click a button to access and mine to their wallet directly to fund those peeps?

Apr 15, 2018 00:00

Replying to @JustMatthew (0x4f65075a8ed440de5dbefd58c6ecb5f972b2ebd6)

This is amazing to see for a couple reasons. Firstly, 1000 peeps will only run you AUD 12 cents. Secondly, direct tipping is a super simple, but powerful way of incentivizing continuous content creation from the tip receiver. Incredible times.

I really think the platform needs to implement micro-tipping (ethereum fees are annoying please scale), seeing as it is essentially gas that keeps peeple peeping.

Apr 14, 2018 23:55

And with a heavy sigh I immortalize my mistakes onto the blockchain for my great grandchildren to laugh at...

Apr 14, 2018 23:51

Replying to @bob (0xed3c6bcaaee02ed5ed572f87d36c4cc7d2f2bdef)

I agree 100% here. By showing who has accumulated more "stuff" (followers, ensō, tips, etc..), we would be encouraging and reenforcing the same mindless "follow based on how much stuff you've got" paradigm that exists on other networks...

That paradigm has some logic to it, you have to admit. "You might like this because others really did." I'm not sure you can eliminate the network effect from a social media network and keep content relevant and reward those who post good content.

Apr 14, 2018 23:49

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

I more so mean weigh things according to their role. Maybe make a tip system using a like button (like enso) that you can click only once per post and costs less, but weighs more like a tip and actually still goes to the OP. Like a like button. Just spitballing.

The more I think about this the less I like it actually. We need a like button equivalent I think. I don't love enso. And tips are too much and give voice to money. Opens it up to spam though. Hard problem.

Apr 14, 2018 23:47

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

But if we weight everything according to costs... then we are giving people with lesser means less of an opportunity to steer discussion. I like the notifications that say - *people you follow* gave enso /here/... or tipped /this/ - which we don't have on Peepeth yet.

I more so mean weigh things according to their role. Maybe make a tip system using a like button (like enso) that you can click only once per post and costs less, but weighs more like a tip and actually still goes to the OP. Like a like button. Just spitballing.

Apr 14, 2018 23:44

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

Yeah, I love that there is a cheaper option than the (high priced) tips. But if ensō will ever be used for presentation or trending... won't we end up with a spam problem just like Twitter's? I guess each front end will approach this differently...

Its gonna be interesting seeing what works. You will probably see spam. It depends what weight you want it to have. If enso is supposed to weigh more than tips, then it should cost more. If tips are gonna replace the like button, then make them weigh accordingly.

Apr 14, 2018 23:37

Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)

I find a good balance. The more I peep, the less I care, but I still care significantly more than I do anywhere else. At the same time, I'm more willing to admit where I'm wrong if my views change in the future. You can't be scared of regretting things you say publicly.

Also why I don't see an issue with blockchain social media. Any info you give is already out in the open, deleting does little. If a hacker posts sensitive information (ethereum more secure imo), you should take steps outside of deleting the posts anyway. Just my take on it.

Apr 14, 2018 23:36

Replying to @boyd (0xa053d0163c36b89a811b22dfe03bfd35cf42d2d7)

I find myself second-guessing everything I consider writing here. This stuff’s permanent. Probably not a bad thing in the long run. Higher quality to noise ratio when things cannot be deleted and it costs at least a nominal amount to post.

I find a good balance. The more I peep, the less I care, but I still care significantly more than I do anywhere else. At the same time, I'm more willing to admit where I'm wrong if my views change in the future. You can't be scared of regretting things you say publicly.

Apr 14, 2018 23:34

Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)

I think it would lead to a million spam bots giving ensō to spam - of course, that's another argument for mandating it be pushed to the chain immediately. On the other hand, everyone in the world should be able to give ensō... is a cent or two too much?

Depends how much you want economic incentive to play a role in the platform. I think the time limit is enough, personally, but I see the appeal to raise the price. If we are replacing the like button with tips and enso, I want enso to be relatively easy to give.

Apr 14, 2018 23:32

Replying to @BradyDale (0x11160b379555dcb6d7269e4612bbadd16242db31)

I did this 30-day pushup challenge. Finished last night. TBH, I did it in 32 days to make up for some pushups I'd miss to the 3000 pushup goal along the way. It was a good experience: https://youtu.be/TlQ8txalLYg

According the U.S. health standards, I'd be really fit if I was a 17-18 year old girl.

I gotta do these challenges sometime...

Apr 14, 2018 17:32

Replying to @mattcope (0x81eed69e92001c0c4b6e465351ae2157233984a1)

Hey @bryce! I just joined - who should I be following?

Hard to say, depends on your interests. Platform is pretty small so the active people tend to be visible a lot. @CallMeGwei @tay and @bevan are pretty cool just to name a few. If you want to learn how to make dapps, @gregory is pretty rad.

Apr 14, 2018 17:05

Replying to @mattcope (0x81eed69e92001c0c4b6e465351ae2157233984a1)

Hello Peeps!

Hello!

Apr 14, 2018 16:55
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