Peeps by @Bryce
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Replying to @koalalorenzo (0x7762b575af6f7b5c26fe5cb9c6c666c0ea4e5bcd)
What concerns me is the privacy with dApps. It will be easy to discover my financial status if everything is public, even if I transfer few EUR to MetaMask. I know we are fixing this! Can’t wait <3 I #Believe in the future
Privacy in cryptocurrency has always been a concern of mine. I think we need substantial privacy in any coin being used as a currency. No one wants their balance visible to all. There are things like mixers and you can have many wallets but still.
Replying to @balibebas (0x1f1c2bcae0505db4fb9c51305af8baa976c26af4)
done and dusted
Welcome to freedom
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
Re: size, maybe. Depends on the b-chain design. Re: keys, they couldn’t demand from a decentralized data key mngmnt system E.g. user has key that only allows deletion of data key, not retrieval of key, & wants to “delete” medical data on one ledger as he is switching to another
How is that information hidden on the blockchain after authenticating the key?
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Not saying you can't do it, saying it hurts the point of censorability. Governments can demand your decryption keys. Also, wouldn't encryption increase transaction sizes and make things more expensive?
Also, confused on your concept just a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Wouldn't every client need the decryption key to read encrypted information? How do you stop a someone from retrieving and recording that key before it is destroyed?
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
@alec @bryce @balresch But I understand your concerns. Transparency is one of the greatest ways blockchain can change the world for good.
Not saying you can't do it, saying it hurts the point of censorability. Governments can demand your decryption keys.
Also, wouldn't encryption increase transaction sizes and make things more expensive?
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
With the blockchain, it is really all or nothing. It is very difficult to get any of the advantages without getting them all. It is the same with getting any of the disadvantages. A blockchain is simply not meant to be loose and controlled, a traditional database is best for that
There are plenty of dapps that don't use the blockchain to store all information, but use a server as well for other info. However, I don't think social media sites can take much advantage from a hybrid model without being no different than what we already have.
Replying to @balresch (0xd6d48727d8835b73f8dc511a5baaf3445a6f65c9)
I think there are projects in which you don't want all the advantages of a technology, just some. Which could be possible by e.g. using a blockchain, but loosening the rules a bit. Which would give you some other advantages of e.g. regular databases/services.
With the blockchain, it is really all or nothing. It is very difficult to get any of the advantages without getting them all. It is the same with getting any of the disadvantages. A blockchain is simply not meant to be loose and controlled, a traditional database is best for that
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
We understand that, I think. I'm just debating why we shouldn't want those solutions on a blockchain platform. If you want control over the data on a database, a blockchain isn't your database.
Also, as a side note, the EU can't really shut us down. Anyone can build a frontend to it. One goes down, another comes back up. Censorship resistant.
Not saying them cracking down on us wouldn't be damaging/fatal to the activity here, but censorship resistance is powerful.
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
@alec @bryce @balresch Exactly, I’m not suggesting mutability or anything drastic, just an idea enabling the protections of blockchain and yet also allowing the privacy many people take seriously. Just a thought experiment; EU will go after privacy violators however they can.
We understand that, I think. I'm just debating why we shouldn't want those solutions on a blockchain platform. If you want control over the data on a database, a blockchain isn't your database.
Replying to @balresch (0xd6d48727d8835b73f8dc511a5baaf3445a6f65c9)
There will always be room for hybrid solutions I think. We shouldn't block our own possibilities by blindly sticking to our own rules forever. I think (parts of) blockchain data could be encrypted at some point - and as long as only the owner of the data can kill it, why not?
If your keys can be confiscated and your peeps censored, it isn't censorship resistant or immutable. It isn't even immutable if you can hide stuff. The blockchain functions best when we don't create keys to the kingdom and other ways of "modifying" data on it.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
It's a public ledger where anybody has equal access to the data. There (to my knowledge) are no decryption keys, that data isn't encrypted. If we could throw away the keys, it wouldn't be immutable. Encryption is used to sign transactions but not for publically available data.
Not being able to delete/forget stuff isn't an issue to work around, it is the whole point of the blockchain. We can still filter frontends however.
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
@Bryce @BradyDale I’m not thinking of violating immutability. What about solutions where for example a key to decrypt a given person’s private data on the #blockchain is destroyed? Blockchain remains immutable, but “right to be forgotten” remains Just an example. @peeplosophy
It's a public ledger where anybody has equal access to the data. There (to my knowledge) are no decryption keys, that data isn't encrypted. If we could throw away the keys, it wouldn't be immutable. Encryption is used to sign transactions but not for publically available data.
Replying to @hankcooper (0x2ef58e7ae0e78d903138f5f606c00f36407f8b94)
I can't wait for the day that Twitter and Facebook are just bad memories, and that goes for Google too. All DARPA spying programs!
Everything anybody posts here is published on a public ledger for anyone to see forever. Facebook collected information on even non users but in the end I ddn't think this will stop spying.
Replying to @BradyDale (0x11160b379555dcb6d7269e4612bbadd16242db31)
I have really mixed feelings about this. I think GDPR is a great development for the world, but yeah it's just not compatible with the blockchain. I guess the main solution is to really help the general public get immutability on these sorts of sites.
Yeah, regulation and the blockchain don't go well together. The whole point of it is a censorship resistant, immutable, distributed ledger. If we have a party deleting stuff, all of that goes down the toilet.
Replying to @bitgenstein (0x13be1af70ff037d1d3ddbdd16a3ef79c6cbfb2fd)
#peeplosophy The EU’s GDPR promises citizens the “right to deletion” (“right to be forgotten”). Watching to see if #blockchain devs in general consider solutions or just ignore:p
Solutions to delete stuff on the blockchain? That's not gonna happen. All you can do is filter frontends like this site, but not the blockchain itself.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
At the moment, Ethereum as a lot of scaling and developing to do before we are fully blockchaining a lot of things. Decentralized solutions are definitely not the most efficient by nature, so hybrids are gonna be around for a while probably. I agree though, I love this dapp.
I find the little optimizations implemented to make this thing work ingenious and this is really the first dapp I've actively used and came back to after a day.
Replying to @nius (0xbd7889a66e7422fffdb5b8af02ddaa84ffe34b14)
The site is amazing! Static files are still delivering by HTTP/S (of course, I am using Chrome), which is rather a transition method. The whole web can be reinvented.
At the moment, Ethereum as a lot of scaling and developing to do before we are fully blockchaining a lot of things. Decentralized solutions are definitely not the most efficient by nature, so hybrids are gonna be around for a while probably. I agree though, I love this dapp.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
#psa There is no magic centralised fairy, no password reset or forgot my password. You and you alone are responsible for your private key and hence any funds/tokens/identity held by that key.
This is why it can be good to have your funds split into multiple wallets, or store your long term investments in "cold storage" (offline) wallets and spending cash in "hot" (online, actively connecting to network) ones.
I wrote this a bit ago but I feel like it still has some relevance to people new to the different types of cryptocurrency wallets. https://howtomine.co/2017/12/14/wallet-desktop-vs-hardware-vs-online-vs-paper-vs-exchange
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Those words are basically used to generate the private keys associated to your wallet. They are essentially the only way to restore your wallet within other applications. Cryptography keeps it secure to use but keep them in a safe place and avoid clipboards.
Basically, the private keys let you sign transactions from individual accounts/addresses but the mnemonic (words) allow you to restore all of those accounts into a wallet application.
Replying to @BradyDale (0x11160b379555dcb6d7269e4612bbadd16242db31)
So like... use the restore words I got when I saved Metamask in the beginning? I thought those were like words of last resort?
Those words are basically used to generate the private keys associated to your wallet. They are essentially the only way to restore your wallet within other applications. Cryptography keeps it secure to use but keep them in a safe place and avoid clipboards.
Replying to @BradyDale (0x11160b379555dcb6d7269e4612bbadd16242db31)
OK, super stupid question: But I joined Peepeth on my browser. Is there a way I can activate it on my mobile, on Toshi, as well? I cannot figure this out. I confess: I am a crypto reporter and I really don't get Metamask...
That is the great thing about ethereum, you can do this. All you need to do is restore your seed into those applications instead of creating a new wallet. Once you import your seed into Toshi, you can access Peepeth and be logged in the same way you are now.
Replying to @tay (0xd161f7fa342dcefeafdeb0827b83a400f57ad0a4)
I've been thinking about this a lot over the past few days. I started sort of collecting and organizing my thoughts here. Still unfinished. Comments welcome. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JUGZ-39pMJ9p_Udx9Myeua0GegsD9G7hihJ1UaVlPhQ/edit?usp=sharing
I like the emphasis on self moderation/filtering you have. I am very interested in how this can be done. I also think it is important that people understand that moderating/filtering a frontend of a dapp is not censoring as the backend still has it all.
Replying to @nojokehoward (0xd15184d3dd868c3ba97e191c437c03b0c4838d03)
What's going on yall. I'm new to Peepeth. But I'm not new to painting. Check out one of my more recent pieces, called "Ethereum". This one is available for purchase. I have plenty more I will post soon, with styles from all corners of the universe. Peace bitchezzz.
Welcome! looking forward to seeing more original content.
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
It makes sense. The only apocalyptic concern I have is this direct financial incentivization by a single party allows that single party to choose who you pay for reputation. What if, worst case scenario, it stopped being charitable? Low weight should be assigned to these, I agree
Well I accidentally double clicked when submitting...
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
They should be limited to charitable badges, if anything and probably comprise only a small part of the score. Spending money with (verifiable) third parties seems like a bad proxy for authenticity at first glance - but spammers cannot afford to do this en masse. May make sense.
It makes sense. The only apocalyptic concern I have is this direct financial incentivization by a single party allows that single party to choose who you pay for reputation. What if, worst case scenario, it stopped being charitable? Low weight should be assigned to these, I agree
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
They should be limited to charitable badges, if anything and probably comprise only a small part of the score. Spending money with (verifiable) third parties seems like a bad proxy for authenticity at first glance - but spammers cannot afford to do this en masse. May make sense.
It makes sense. The only apocalyptic concern I have is this direct financial incentivization by a single party allows that single party to choose who you pay for reputation. What if, worst case scenario, it stopped being charitable? Low weight should be assigned to these, I agree
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
To me it increases a peepers reputation but there are multiple reasons why you might not want the badge. Reputation should be a combination of items.
Guess I would agree. As long as items are weighted appropriately, it seems like a pretty good base concept for a reputation system.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Just keep peeping. That should help you create more peeps.
Just saw this. Thanks for the tip, really appreciate it. Can't stop, won't stop.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Just my thoughts on a peepers reputation, each item not in isolation. I like the mosquito badge. Others may not want to create those types of links to identities (email, fiat payment). Others may not want to support this particular charity.
Just to be clear, I'm just concerned about the idea of the mosquito badge affecting the reputation of a peeper. I don't have an issue with the badge existing.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
I’ve tipped and been tipped. $1 keeps me going for some time and I peep a lot.
Trying to see how long a dollar lasts me for the amount of activity I have. So far, it's going well.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Brainstorm. My personal thoughts only. Need to add use of peeper created hashtag by other peepers.
Not sure that the mosquito badge should be used. It seems effective for filtering out spam but its also directly incentivizing people to pay up. People will feel pressured to buy every badge and we don't know what future paid badges could pop up.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
You are creating associations. You are linking an Ethereum address (which you are creating an identity too) to a fiat donation (using PayPal or credit card) publicly and privately linking to email.
Thought so. I'll wait for them to add an ether option. I do understand that I really can't prevent a lot of associations with an ethereum address I'm using for social media, but I can try.
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
I think that even with user-paid gas costs there will be front ends that use advertising to make the experience "free" - possibly with refunds or some clever authorization contracts.At least there will be a choice... (Maybe even a dpos sidechain... choices, ftw.)
Tips also play a decent role, but obviously isn't a complete solution. It can take me a while to burn up a dollar here but one decent tip would keep me going. I imagine those Tweeting more would also net more tips.
Anyone else getting "connection is not secure" on their browser? I'm on Firefox. Says "this website contains content that is not secure."
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Peep reputation: Peep age/# Profile picture Verifications on twitter and mosquito Number of peeps Number of followers Tips received (quantity and value) Ensō received Peepers who have met you in real life
I don't love the idea of basing reputation on verification on Twitter. I'm here to get away from that.
Replying to @philip (0x65fd47d1d5f8b91059e5d103cbeadd3972e26b1d)
Malaria is bad. Here's my pledge to help in the fight against it: https://www.againstmalaria.com/MyNets.aspx?DonationID=361431 More about this badge here: https://peepeth.com/malaria Great use of blockchain tech (even indirectly!) for effective altruism.
Is there any way that your Paypal info or info associated with your Paypal account could be associated with your ethereum address if you donate to this while they don't have a crypto option?
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
Just keep peeping. Introduce friends, family and co-workers. If you peep, they will come.
A friend sent me 2 dollars in ether so I could get started and try it out. Trying to pay it forward and get more of my friends on board. The hardest part is getting somebody to buy ether, but dapps are generally cheap enough to make that a non issue. A mobile app would be awesome
I'm really loving this application. It's the first dapp I've practically used and I want to keep using. Hope we can get much more activity here soon.
Replying to @kirkwood (0xcd78eb19befd4b7e46551ea1624788b731c87542)
I got one today too. I read post private keys..... wtf The amount of scams coming out of the blockchain space is ridiculous. Did you see the one where somebody posted their private key, had 5k in token value but no eth in the wallet?
That scam was not like the other phishing ones though. It just honeypotted people trying to steal funds for ether meant to be used as gas. Still, the amount of scams seems pretty appropriate for the complicated, wild west nature of the space.
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
That makes a few of us in support of the term... https://peepeth.com/?id=QmeDyes36XvKH8KJwLGs6poqCHFkVg9pNetU1qBG13kVvG
No matter what we call ourselves, we'll still be "peeping"
Replying to @sergio (0x10f9e037b63a51ebf6dc9db82ac4afbbc383ca13)
hey there 0x's!
What did you just call me?
Replying to @Haje (0x6ab32660bce297983bb15932bb5bd6ab3140898a)
Yep. I guess my argument is that a blockchain isn't really required to solve the part I care about (reducing spam), and is actively harmful in other things I care about (some of which I have written about at great length - https://bit.ly/2JLtzBG )
I'm honestly more worried about things like censorship and security. Not a lot of hacking or ddosing with blockchain. Front ends can still filter spam and implement better ways of doing so. I don't quite see how that is the job of the backend/database.
Replying to @CallMeGwei (0x285bc660aa42b8effc6c60357cd4d8ca072be625)
Wow! Thanks @bob I appreciate the tip and the sharing! The mosquito badge section of my article has a link - but its just peepeth dot com / malaria.
Might donate when/if they accept ether. Don't really have any free money not in crypto right now.
Replying to @Haje (0x6ab32660bce297983bb15932bb5bd6ab3140898a)
I think it's less about 'bad actors' - it's more about actively illegal content. Copyright infringement, child pornography, harassment, racism, etc. I appreciate that not everyone agrees, but I think that some content *shouldn't* be un-deleteable.
It is the "cost" (if you see it that way) of having a decentralized, uncensorable application. Front ends can filter to protect those that want it but it is important for us to have such a database in order to have liberty. The whole point is no central control or vulnerability.
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
I can see verification becoming more and more important. The more verifications someone has the more trustworthy they appear. Currently Peepeth has twitter and the mosquito badge (plus an optional third - email for invite). I want to follow the verified
I don't have a Twitter account I'd want to be associated with this. What's with the mosquito badge?
Replying to @abcoathup (0x13ebd3443fa5575f0eb173e323d8419f7452cfb1)
A bad actor can’t delete their peeps, it is there on the permanent record. Clients can hide content.
Front ends can develop ways of hiding unwanted content. There is a report button here. That way, you don't have to see certain things. If you do, find another front end or make your own. All of the important data is stored on the blockchain but the front end can filter.
Replying to @Lion (0x3833d757b8bc418bcec546ced8f444bf7bdfec33)
$5 tip to the person who guesses the correct date (or closest) that peepeth reaches over 1,000 members! Go!
April 21st
Replying to @Bryce (0xf54ea10ed1aa644a9ef2ce870e6122c35d19f4da)
Shit... am I the muted one?
Never mind false alarm.